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Band I, II and III



What is actually every digital system developped or in developping to
broadcast on band I, II and III

In my head, I have

Band I :
DRM

Band II :
DRM
IBOC
FMeXtra

Band III :
DAB
DVB-T

gr, hwh
Sounds about rite.

DRM+ will work up to 120Mhz,
so yes it could be used on Band-I or Band-II.

IBOC/FMeXtra, as far as I understand are systems that work with FM, so
yes, I presume that they would have to be Band-II.
Will IBOC work in Europe? Each FM station in the US operates analog ±75kHz
with the digital IBOC carriers operating beyond that out to ±200kHz. In
theory this works but in the US it's not unusual for reception of 102.7 to
have 102.5 and 102.9 come in to spoil any IBOC reception you may have
gotten.
It may work in some countries. The commercial broadcasters in
Switzerland would like to use it and -over there- the mountains do
provide for a very good "seperation" of the FM-transmittors.

I do wonder however how well it will work in the border-areas where they
have to take account of FM-radio-stations of other countries and some of
those areas are not that mountainous. (Like the Basel area).

Cheerio! Kr. Bonne.



DAB will probably be used mostly on Band-III. It is also capable of
using L-Band, which is a much higher frequency band. However it is
looking less likely that this will be used, due to the much higher cost
L-Band of transmission.
Why not?
L-band does work great for local coverage in big urban centers.

It's used in Canada for DAB and CHUM's own system.

There have been new assignment for DMB mobile video-broadcasting in some
of the German Länder in L-band.

In theory, DAB is designed to work at any frequency between 30 MHz en 3
Ghz, so it can also work at other frequenties. One of the proposals for
S-DMB in France proposed the range around 2.1 Ghz currently assigned for
the satellite segment of UMTS.
OK. I may have been a little quick to dismiss L-Band, it may well have
it's uses. I was however simply saying that DAB uses mostly Band-III.

Richard E.



I'd also add DVB-H (and DVB-T) which could use Band-III as well as Band-IV.
But finally, I can see that frequencies for broadcasting is very important.

Band III, seems to be a very big bandwidth, near 50 MHz, and with
frequency around 200 MHz, is easier to put small antenna.
I think, it can be developped a system, without mux using band III, no ?

With a modern system like DRM, to have the same offer of programs, we
need only 14 MHz, so only two channels in band III ! In considering, we
use only one channel of 100 kHz of two
The man made noise and fading are very important in band I and band III,
Man made noise is unimportant, because it's only 1 - 2 dB and can be
compensated by increasing transmitter powers.

if the channel is inferior to 1.4 MHz, it is not working well. It's
Total nonsense.

research results since a few years now.
If you want ot minimeze flat fading, you need large channels...
Flat fading is dealt with by using time-interleaving and FEC coding.

And presumably you're trying to suggest that you shouldn't use DRM+ and
you should use DAB instead, but this figure shows how amazingly
expensive DAB is to distribute:

Nobody should *ever* choose to use DAB.


Preliminary tests of DAB had been made in France on band I

Nicolas Croiset VDL
http://www.vdl.fr/


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Richard E.
Cheerio! Kr. Bonne.